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Smallville: Another new clip for 10x08 - I worship at the television altar
Smallville: Another new clip for 10x08
The CW has posted a clip from Abandoned of Lois in the Fortress. While I would have preferred to see Clark tell the A.I. off himself, all I have to say to this is, you go, girl! I love that Lois is a Clark fan.

I have no idea what will happen next, if the show will validate Lois's words or try to convince us that Jor-El knows best, but either way I'll be happy we got this moment.

Your son needs a father who believes in him. I wish knowing that I loved him was enough. But Clark can't fully hear it with the ghost of your disappointment haunting him. You're stopping him from fulfilling his potential. He's an amazing man. He's a hero.

[silence] Really? Nothing? You know, you may not care about anybody else but yourself, but Clark does! And you are not one tenth the Kryptonian he is. He's lucky to be rid of you.

For the record, Clark does have a father who has always believed in him: Jonathan. I wish Clark didn't care what Jor-El thinks, but I understand why he does, and I don't fault him for that. And I'd be upset if Clark wasn't included in all this, but we see him in the Fortress in one of the other clips. I'm very curious to see how this scene plays out.

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duskwillow From: duskwillow Date: November 9th, 2010 09:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Go, Lois! I feel like she's speaking for the audience!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 9th, 2010 10:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
She's certainly speaking for me!
bananabehr From: bananabehr Date: November 9th, 2010 10:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
I totally got goosebumps from that clip!!! Is it Friday yet???
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 9th, 2010 11:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm counting the days until this one myself!
audrey229 From: audrey229 Date: November 9th, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
I said this elsewhere but I really do feel like Lois is speaking for the audience. So many people were upset after "Lazarus" and it's just nice to know that the show understands that so many of us found Jor-El's behavior cruel.

I agree that Clark does have a father who believes in him in Jonathan. But I guess from Lois' perspective...Jonathan is gone. And while Jor-El is gone too....his presence is "alive" in this fortress. Jor-El probably feels more present and available right now than Jonathan does.

I would be very upset if Clark wasn't included in this but it does look like he has some kind of scene in the fotress. Whether he follows Lois up there or goes there at the end....I'm not sure. But I'm just glad he goes.

They seem to be keeping Tess' storyline very close to the vest. I guess we'll have to wait until Friday to figure out what is going on with her and Granny Goodness. That whole thing still remains a real mystery to me right now.

The irony for me in watching this clip is that Lois is saying that Jor-El's dissapoinment is keeping Clark from fulfilling his full potential. Back in "Savior" Jor-El told Clark that refusing to cut ties with Lois was holding him back.

It also makes me think of the Richard Donner cut of Superman II where Jor-El accuses Clark of disrespecting the world by giving into this "selfish pursuits" by trying to share a life with Lois and the lingering shot where he glares at her with dissatisfaction and anger after Clark makes his choice.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 9th, 2010 11:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've been finding Jor-El's behavior cruel since he first showed up in S2! Still, I'm happy anyone is calling him on his crap this season. :)

It's hard to know what or who Lois thinks Jor-El is. I've often wondered exactly how Clark would explain him to someone else, but it looks like he has told Lois just about everything she didn't already know about his life in the past couple of weeks, and it all happened offscreen. :( I also wonder if Lois knows about Clark's recent encounter with Jonathan, and if so, what he told her that was (dream? vision? ghost?).

Whether he follows Lois up there or goes there at the end....I'm not sure. But I'm just glad he goes.

Agreed. I didn't realize how afraid I was that the show would exclude him until I saw him there in the clip. I have serious trust issues when it comes to Smallville! LOL!

The good thing about a Tess storyline is we know Cassidy will rock it no matter what. :) Plus we know Clark is part of it! I love the parallels between Lois's situation and Tess's this week (facing childhood traumas, unlocking mysteries from the past), and how Clark will be there for both of them.

The irony for me in watching this clip is that Lois is saying that Jor-El's dissapoinment is keeping Clark from fulfilling his full potential. Back in "Savior" Jor-El told Clark that refusing to cut ties with Lois was holding him back.

Jor-El is a wackadoodle. And so are the writers when it comes to him sometimes. ;)
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tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 10th, 2010 12:06 am (UTC) (Link)
I'd also like to note that Clark didn't sever ties with Jor-El, as the screenplay claims in the earlier preview clip. Jor-El disowned him.

Good point! I'm still afraid that they're going to try to convince us that Jor-El was somehow right in Lazarus, and that Lois (and us, by extension) will be shown the error of her outrage in whatever happens next. This show has burned me too many times for me not to expect the worst.
cbrownjc From: cbrownjc Date: November 9th, 2010 11:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
I said somewhere else that I wished Lois knew all the things that crazy AI has done to Clark in the past. Because I think she'd tell it off even more than she did here if she did know. And I'd be cheering her on even more than I did here.

She really is the "voices of the audience" in this clip IMO.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 10th, 2010 12:13 am (UTC) (Link)
I wonder what Clark did and didn't tell Lois about his history with Jor-El over the years. When you start to make a list of everything he's done, it's pretty unbelievable.

I do appreciate that TPTB gave a voice to our anger, over Lazarus and everything else Jor-El has put our hero through. What I don't know is if our opinion will be validated, or shown to be misguided.
gildinwen From: gildinwen Date: November 10th, 2010 12:31 am (UTC) (Link)
YAY!!!! \O/ I ADORED hearing Lois speaking for the audience there and giving the A.I a piece of her mind!!!!!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 10th, 2010 12:45 am (UTC) (Link)
Me, too! It's about time somebody set him straight! :)
jeannev From: jeannev Date: November 10th, 2010 12:49 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, the jury is still out...way, way out...for me about this storyline. We'll see if I feel differently when it plays out.

I think it really comes down to this...almost every single plot they come up with that has much to do with the FoS, and AI Jor-El sort of sucks in a big, fat major way.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 10th, 2010 01:39 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't blame you for reserving judgment. There are a lot of ways for this storyline to disappoint me, especially as a Clark fan. So much depends on what leads up to Lois's decision to go to the Fortress, and what goes down there. How and when Clark joins the party could make a big difference as well. No doubt that's why watching this scene leaves me gratified for the moment, but vaguely unsettled.

Watching the scenes from Tess's storyline, however, makes me giddy with happy anticipation. So much potential goodness (no pun intended) there! :)
jude_judith82 From: jude_judith82 Date: November 10th, 2010 12:52 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm withholding judgment until the episode airs and as much I'm glad any one is telling Jor-el off (especially Lois) I want to see Clark's reactions to this. Though I'm all in the you go Lois camp too. :-)
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 10th, 2010 01:42 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm anxious to see Clark's part in all this as well. I want to believe the show will do right by him, but their track record isn't exactly stellar, especially when it comes to Jor-El.
whimsywinx From: whimsywinx Date: November 10th, 2010 01:12 am (UTC) (Link)
I always knew Lois would tell Jor-El off if she got the chance.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 10th, 2010 01:47 am (UTC) (Link)
All of this does seem very much in character for Lois. I think one of my favorite things about her being in on Clark's secret is that now he has her support in ways that weren't even possible before. I just don't want to see any more episodes where Clark takes a back seat when Lois steps up.
From: kissme_myfool Date: November 10th, 2010 02:17 am (UTC) (Link)
Traveler deja vu. I'll leave it at that... lol
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 10th, 2010 04:41 am (UTC) (Link)
Of course I thought of that, too. :) I know your point is that this show has very few original thoughts left at this late date, but it's interesting to me to ponder the differences that are already apparent. Chloe took Kara to the Fortress in order to save Clark, and through her eloquence and passion was able to make Jor-El her ally. That moment remains one of the most powerful of the entire series, especially when you consider that Jor-El once tried to kill Chloe for interfering in his plans for his son. She risked her life to save Clark's, and he probably never fully realized the depth of the sacrifice she was willing to make for him.

Lois goes to the Fortress with a completely different attitude. She wants to convince Jor-El, but without compromise. She's there to confront, to fight for what she thinks is right, but on her terms. Jor-El is an adversary, and there is a stand to be made. Of course Clark's life isn't in imminent danger, and I think that's the point: he is no longer at the mercy of Jor-El's whims. It's an interesting shift, both for Clark himself, and the woman who stands by his side now, as Chloe did then.
la_belle_isa From: la_belle_isa Date: November 10th, 2010 02:54 am (UTC) (Link)
I hope Clark didn't already lose his voice after getting to talk for himself in Ambush.
She's maybe talking for some of the audience but not for me. I would certainly prefer to hear Clark.
Oh well. We'll see how it plays out.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 10th, 2010 03:52 am (UTC) (Link)
I would always prefer to hear Clark speak for himself, but Lois took the words right out of my mouth when she said Clark was lucky to be rid of Jor-El.

You do raise a valid point. As much as I appreciate that Lois defends Clark so fiercely, the conversation I most want to see in the Fortress is one that is Clark's to have. I'm hopeful that he will, though.

Any storyline involving Jor-El is going to be problematic for me. I don't know what makes Lois go to the FoS, but I'm guessing that revisiting/realizing what she missed with her mother (either by losing her at such a tender age, or denying herself the tapes she made for so many years) inspires her to try to forge a reconciliation between Clark and Jor-El. But I want Clark to stay as far away from the A.I. as possible. Forever. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be disappointed. :)
fotw_sv From: fotw_sv Date: November 10th, 2010 12:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
Whoa! Lois really let him have it. Can't wait to see what happens.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 11th, 2010 12:39 am (UTC) (Link)
That's the big question: what happens next?

I can't even tell you how many times I've sat in my living room and yelled at Jor-El. :D I love Lois for saying those things to him.
el_elle_8 From: el_elle_8 Date: November 10th, 2010 03:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Going to be honest, this episode has me a little worried. I am all for Lois taking on Jor El but I also want Clark to be included. The potential is there for this episode to be great but it could also go wrong quite easily.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: November 11th, 2010 12:41 am (UTC) (Link)
The show has proved they can let Clark be awesome in Ambush, and that they can shove him aside to let Lois shine in Harvest. I'm nervous about this episode, too.
chris_43 From: chris_43 Date: November 12th, 2010 04:16 am (UTC) (Link)
Put me in on the worried side of things for this episode. I did feel better when I saw the clip of Clark at the fortress too. I just hope that once and for all some kind of resolution is made with the crazy, cruel and sadistic AI/Jor-El. I've seriously had enough of the writing with this character. Though, I'm happy to see Lois standing up for Clark, I'd like to see Clark resolve this issue with Jor-El once and for all himself.
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