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From: kissme_myfool Date: April 21st, 2010 10:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wow they are really trying to get Chloe fans to a watch again, huh? Even as a Chloe fan, I see how much Chloe emphasis there is...

Little do they know, we're still not interested.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: April 21st, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think they are courting Chloe fans, and perhaps Allison herself. But they don't understand what Chloe fans want any better than they get what Clark fans want. They've been assuring us that we'll love the finale for weeks now, and then their own description of it makes it clear that we won't. It would make me laugh if it didn't make me want to cry.
cbrownjc From: cbrownjc Date: April 21st, 2010 11:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
Actually, and sorry to butt in, but I think this has jack-all to do with catering to Chloe fans and trying to get them to watch the show again. Because they were, supposedly, not watching during the beginning of the season, and the show's ratings were just fine. It out performed what the head of the network expected for it on Fridays and the show got renewed without some fans of a specific character still around or not.

So no, this isn't about Chloe fans. That's giving Chloe fans way too much credit/power. Being loud and whiny on the internet doesn't translate into real world figures, numbers, and money as the first half of the season proved.

Nope. This, quite frankly, is about the SV writers falling back - again - into a pattern they've been in since Clark graduated HS at the end of season 4, and nothing else. And it's just gotten worse and worse every season. First they used Lana and all the relationship drama with her to drag this out, now they're just using Chloe and Oliver to do it (Oliver to a lesser extent than Chloe) now that Lana is gone. The minute Clark is Superman is the minute the show is over. And they've been twisting and turning and pushing Clark in this way, and using other characters to do it, since season five. It's just gotten worse and worse the older and older Clark's gotten and the closer and closer he's supposed to be to the end.

Edited at 2010-04-21 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: kissme_myfool Date: April 21st, 2010 11:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
The writers don't write the ODs, publicists do. So obviously for one reason or another, they want Chloe fans watching. Remember, this is the CW, which means they want the young female demo. (By the way, I don't watch live and I download the episode for Chloe scenes and skip the rest. I would be willing to watch if we started to get some s1-s8!Chloe and some heroic!Clark.)

That they are going back to mentioning Chloe in the ODs had to be triggered by something. It may not be the supposed loud Chloe fans on the internet, but something did. (Where are these fans, I always get drowned out by Chloe haters being loud, bitching and whining?)

I remember back in the back end of s1, they did their research and found girls preferred Chloe over Lana. Then, we get s2 which tried to turn people against Chloe and into Lana's arms.

What I'm trying to say is that, in my opinion these ODs are catering to Chloe fans...why? don't know. Anyway, that's my opinion and thanks for sharing yours. :)
cbrownjc From: cbrownjc Date: April 21st, 2010 11:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
And thanks for sharing yours, but the ODs are only an overview of the episodes - and the ODs have been dead wrong about some things in recent years. Because this isn't season 1 anymore, and the network the show is on now is not the same as it was back then.

Know why Chloe's mentioned in the ODs recently? Because she's involved in the plot in some way significant enough in these episodes to get a mention. Same reason Lois will get a mention in an OD or not, or Oliver will get a mention or not.

They write these ODs to try and drum excitement and press for the episode in question, and word them to give a basic overview on what's going on that does that in the best way possible, not to specifically cater to one specific fan group and get them to watch.

And tariel's reply went into talking about the show as a whole, not just the ODs, which is what I was also responding to originally when talking about the writing.

Edited at 2010-04-21 11:53 pm (UTC)
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: April 22nd, 2010 12:00 am (UTC) (Link)
I have no idea what drives the sometimes incomprehensible decisions made by TPTB, or by the people in charge of promoting the show for the CW, but I do think they are featuring Chloe, both in the show and in the media, because they perceive her to have fans, and those are fans they want to keep. I don't think the fans they have in mind are the tiny contingent who harass the writers on Twitter and spam every Smallville article with comments bashing Lois and Clark, however.

Personally, I think this was the plan all along. The first half of the season was all about Lois, because they needed to get her personal and professional relationship with Clark firmly established in case S9 turned out to be the last, and Chloe's story was always intended to gain prominence in the second half. I only wish they were as anxious to give the spotlight to Clark.
cbrownjc From: cbrownjc Date: April 22nd, 2010 12:23 am (UTC) (Link)
Personally, I think this was the plan all along. The first half of the season was all about Lois, because they needed to get her personal and professional relationship with Clark firmly established in case S9 turned out to be the last, and Chloe's story was always intended to gain prominence in the second half. I only wish they were as anxious to give the spotlight to Clark.

Oh, I agree about that. In fact, I think the producers even said at the beginning of the season Chloe would be more featured during the second half. Which I honestly wouldn't have minded too much if Clark has been featured a lot too and Chloe hadn't been acting the way she's been acting towards him all season.

I just don't believe the notion that they wrote these ODs with the strict intent to drum up publicity strictly to court Chloe/Allison fans into watching. Just as I don't think they specifically wrote any of the ODs in the first half of the season to court Lois and Clark fans/shippers. Especially when it comes to the CW and their error-prone ODs. (I'm still waiting for the moment in Rabid when Chloe was supposed to beg Clark to save Lois' life). I think Chloe's getting most of the mention now in the press and stuff because she's got most of the plot focus, and not Clark. I think that was pretty apparent after Escape, Checkmate and Upgrade. Just as the producers said she would at the start of the season.

And I don't think the writers/producers of the show even read the CW ODs for the show. Because writer Al Septien had absolutely no idea the OD for Sacrifice spoiled the Oliver getting the Z burned into his chest thing. He had to be told about it by a fan on twitter.

Edited at 2010-04-22 12:27 am (UTC)
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: April 22nd, 2010 12:51 am (UTC) (Link)
I just don't believe the notion that they wrote these ODs with the strict intent to drum up publicity strictly to court Chloe/Allison fans into watching.

Well of course not. But either they're featuring Chloe because she's just that important to the story, or because they specifically want to highlight whatever role she does play. Either way, through the writing or the marketing, they're trying to get the attention of viewers who are interested in Chloe and what she's doing. But I don't want to split hairs, truly.

I remember TPTB saying we would see more of Chloe in the second half. I don't remember them ever saying it would be at the expense of the focus on Clark.

I think one of the reasons that the OD's might be inaccurate is because they could be based on the network version of the script, which is not final. Or maybe the people who write them are on crack. :)

I thought it was notable that Al Septien seemed a little dismayed when he found out the Z thing had been spoiled. It's interesting to consider what the writers would consider too spoilery, versus the opinion of the people who actually decide what to tease in the OD's.
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