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Smallville: Justin Hartley talks to TVGuide.com
One more Justin Hartley interview, with Natalie Abrams for TVGuide.com. He goes a little more in depth about the upcoming romance between Oliver and Chloe.

Smallville: Justin Hartley Says Chloe-Oliver Are a Go
Jan 29, 2010 12:49 AM ET
by Natalie Abrams

Watch out, Lois (Erica Durance) and Clark (Tom Welling), there's a new hot Smallville couple. Justin Hartley reveals to TVGuide.com that his character Oliver will be moving on when the show returns, setting his sights on Clark's go-to gal, Chloe (Allison Mack). Hartley also discusses how Ollie feels about the Lois and Clark pairing, how his relationships will change with and whether the super-show will say farewell this year.

TVGuide.com: How do you feel Oliver is different in the second half of the season?
Justin Hartley:
He's cleaned up a bit, he's shaving, so that's good. I'm guessing he's probably bathing as well, which is probably something new for him. He's back closer to the old Oliver that we're used to, the fun guy. There's a few demons still left in his closet that he's got to deal with. He's not depressed and dark and suicidal.

TVGuide.com: Fans really enjoy the Oliver and Chloe dynamic. Is there a chance the two of them will get together romantically?
Hartley:
Yeah, I think that's in the works. I don't know how long it will last or how far they're going to go with it because we haven't shot that much yet, but that's what's going on right now.

TVGuide.com: Would you want to see him with Chloe over Lois?
Hartley:
No, it's not like he prefers Lois. It's an interesting thing because he's got the love of his life in Lois, and she's happy now. It sounds so cliché, "I just want to see you happy," but I think that Oliver understands that he can't make a woman like that happy and give her what she needs. He's just not that man. What Chloe is asking for is a little bit different; it's more Oliver's speed. Not to downplay it or say it's a convenient thing, they're definitely comfortable together and they understand each other and don't have to put on a front.

TVGuide.com: Will there be any more Tess (Cassidy Freeman) and Oliver hookups?
Hartley:
She threw a knife at me the other day, so yeah, we're going to be working together. I think I pissed her off again, so that's always fun. I don't know if they're going to be involved anymore. I would say no, but then at the same time who knows what Oliver's going to do? He's a dirty bird.

TVGuide.com: How will the relationships among Clark, Chloe and Oliver change in the next few episodes? Are they still at odds about the best way to deal with Zod (Callum Blue)?
Hartley:
Yeah, they are in a way. In spending more time with Chloe, Oliver starts to understand Clark's way a little more. Instead of taking sides, if there were in fact three sides, Oliver has his own view. All three of them think they're the best person for the job. In working with Chloe, I learn more about why Clark looks at things the way he does, and what's wrong with both of our plans. Hopefully we come at it with a three-pronged attack.

TVGuide.com: Does Oliver get to meet Warrior Angel or reunite with Zatanna in "Warrior"? Zatanna does still owe him a wish.
Hartley:
Yeah, I tried to bring that up. I was like, "Listen, I believe she owes me a wish and I believe that I know what I want to cash in on." But I don't work with either one of them. I'm barely in that episode. I'm in the very end and the scene I'm in precludes what's about to happen. It's like a teaser at the end of the episode.

TVGuide.com: What interaction will Oliver have with Zod in the coming episodes?
Hartley:
It's being discussed. Of course if there's a battle between the two of them, Oliver has got to have something, a weapon; it's not a fair fight unless Oliver has some kind of weapon.

TVGuide.com: Do you feel you guys are heading into a series finale or a season finale?
Hartley:
It feels like a season finale. I will say that, but I'll say immediately after that that I have no idea. I don't know. No one has said anything to me either way, but it feels like a season finale just because it seems like there's a lot more story to tell. It seems like people want us back next year.

TVGuide.com: Are you signed on for Season 10?
Hartley:
Yeah, if they want me. If they want me, they can have me back.

TVGuide.com: If this is the last season, do you worry the writers may kill Oliver off?
Hartley:
I don't know if they can kill him. He's alive in the comics much older than me, at least he looks older, so I don't know if they can kill him. I guess they could do whatever they wanted. They could always make him disappear either way. He doesn't live in Smallville or Metropolis, does he? All I have to say is if he's killed, it better be a good one. I don't want to go out like a chump; I want to go out in fireballs.

Are you excited to see a love connection between Chloe and Oliver?


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carolandtom From: carolandtom Date: January 29th, 2010 09:04 am (UTC) (Link)
I've been meaning to thank you for all the links and transcripts.It's very kind of you to keep us updated!

JH surely gives a lot of interviews, doesn't he? I wish Tom did at least one!
carolandtom From: carolandtom Date: January 29th, 2010 09:06 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh, and if I don't comment much it's because RL keeps me busy. But I always love to see your name on an entry!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks so much for saying that! *hugs* And I understand completely about RL, I have the same situation. This past week it's been all I can do to post these interviews and keep up with the comments on them. I haven't had much time to make comments anywhere else. :(
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 07:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
You're more than welcome, Carol! I'm glad you're finding them useful. You know, I recently decided to start putting the interviews I find in my journal, because there have been so many times when I wanted to refer back to one and couldn't find it again.

I appreciate that Justin is willing to make the rounds. I'm with you, I would be thrilled if Tom could do just one. I think we're missing a voice for Clark that only he can provide.
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tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 08:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think in this fandom the Girl Code is used in a very self-serving manner, and almost never applied with any consistency. It amazes me that people purport to cite it in all seriousness, when their agenda is so patently transparent.
starry_dawn From: starry_dawn Date: January 29th, 2010 02:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm sad Chlarkers have such a bad rep in this fandom. There seem to be so few people left who are still watching the show and who still like both Chloe and Lois. :(
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 08:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I do! *waves hand frantically* I may be annoyed with how Chloe is acting toward Clark these days, but I still adore her. It does seem to be an either/or situation for a lot of people, though, doesn't it? :(

I wish they would a) let Clark and Chloe have it out once and for all and clear the air, so they can find a way back to their friendship again, and b) give us some Chlo/Lo storylines, instead of inadvertently playing into the fandom divisiveness by keeping them isolated from one another.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 08:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
I just don't like that, for all these years people bashed Lois for "stealing Chloe's man (even though she never actually had Clark)"

I am so sick of people saying that. First of all, I think that whole thing about how you can't date someone because they used to date your sister/cousin/BFF is a load of hogwash. If you're meant to be with someone, you have every right to pursue happiness with them, as long as they are currently single. It's your choice to decide if the fallout, whatever that may be, is worth it, but you're not wrong or a bad person if you decide to go for it.

Secondly, I suspect that the people who say that don't really care about that issue at all. It's just an excuse to hate on Lois because they're mad she got Clark instead of Chloe. I'm sure they wouldn't have had a problem with Chloe getting together with Clark after he broke up with Lana, even though Lana was supposedly Chloe's best friend. I also don't think the people who claim to champion Lollie and use that as an excuse to bash Clois are sincere.

As far as Chlollie goes, it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me in the context of where Chloe and Oliver both are right now, but I'm not particularly opposed to it. I guess it all depends on how it plays out.
starry_dawn From: starry_dawn Date: January 29th, 2010 02:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Chloe's looking for Oliver's "speed"? What the hell does THAT mean? :/

IDK, I'm excited, but I'm also slightly nervous, especially with regards to Chloe. I just want my old, happy Chloe back. D:
lacylaces From: lacylaces Date: January 29th, 2010 05:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
"I just want my old, happy Chloe back."

Me too, so much!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 08:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
He says what Chloe is looking for is more Oliver's speed than what Lois needs, which is hardly a ringing endorsement for the relationship, if you ask me. He can't measure up to what Lois needs in a man, but what he has to offer is fine for Chloe, because she's not asking for all that much? He makes it sound like they're friends with benefits. :/

I'm just going to have to see how the Chlollie plays out before I decide how I feel about it. And I don't know how Oliver feels about this new relationship, but from this interview I don't get the impression that Justin's all that jazzed about it. Or maybe it doesn't make any more sense to him than it does to me right now.

I want the old, happy Chloe back, too. I feel like they've transferred Oliver's traditional role of making snide remarks to Clark for no apparent reason, which I've always hated, to Chloe now. Why do the writers feel the need to take unwarranted potshots at the hero of the story? It baffles me.
starry_dawn From: starry_dawn Date: January 30th, 2010 04:23 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm afraid "friends with benefits" is EXACTLY where they're going with this, which ... *sigh*. I didn't want it to be "true love" or anything, but seriously? This is just going to make both of look bad. Well, worse than they look right now. D:
jeannev From: jeannev Date: January 29th, 2010 02:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
OK, I haven't done this yet, but since there are so many of them, I have to pick at it a bit and complain. Because...well, because I'm Me, Hello! ;)

TVGuide.com: Would you want to see him with Chloe over Lois?
Hartley: No, it's not like he prefers Lois. It's an interesting thing because he's got the love of his life in Lois, and she's happy now. It sounds so cliché, "I just want to see you happy," but I think that Oliver understands that he can't make a woman like that happy and give her what she needs. He's just not that man. What Chloe is asking for is a little bit different; it's more Oliver's speed. Not to downplay it or say it's a convenient thing, they're definitely comfortable together and they understand each other and don't have to put on a front.


IDK. I think anyway you squint and look at this one, it sounds like Oliver is settling for Chloe because he can't have Lois, and apparently Chloe won't ask much from him. Pardon me while I swoon over how romantic that is *rolls eyes* Why are they bothering with this? It just sounds like a timesuck to me.

TVGuide.com: Will there be any more Tess (Cassidy Freeman) and Oliver hookups?
Hartley: She threw a knife at me the other day, so yeah, we're going to be working together. I think I pissed her off again, so that's always fun. I don't know if they're going to be involved anymore. I would say no, but then at the same time who knows what Oliver's going to do? He's a dirty bird.


Really? So, Oliver thinks Lois is the love of his life, he's going to be having a fling with Chloe, but who knows, he might still have something brewing with Tess?

Is this the Oliver show?

TVGuide.com: How will the relationships among Clark, Chloe and Oliver change in the next few episodes? Are they still at odds about the best way to deal with Zod (Callum Blue)?
Hartley: Yeah, they are in a way. In spending more time with Chloe, Oliver starts to understand Clark's way a little more. Instead of taking sides, if there were in fact three sides, Oliver has his own view. All three of them think they're the best person for the job. In working with Chloe, I learn more about why Clark looks at things the way he does, and what's wrong with both of our plans. Hopefully we come at it with a three-pronged attack.


OK, All sorts of ragey thoughts going on in my head now. For one thing, Zod is now turning into a Clark/Oliver/Chloe enemy, so, so much for this being about Clark. Heck, he's just one of the potential "prongs" of attack, right? And why can't Oliver start to understand Clark's way a bit more because he's spending time with Clark. Why does that need to involve Chloe?

And really, Oliver and Chloe think they are the right people for the job? Over Clark? Jesus-fucking-Christ!

And already we've got the "whats wrong with Clark's plan" thing. I knew that was coming.

TVGuide.com: What interaction will Oliver have with Zod in the coming episodes?
Hartley: It's being discussed. Of course if there's a battle between the two of them, Oliver has got to have something, a weapon; it's not a fair fight unless Oliver has some kind of weapon.


WHY?? Why is it necessary for Oliver to have any meaningful direct interaction with Zod? Oliver isn't the star of the show. Oliver isn't Zod's main nemesis. Why is this about Oliver AT ALL? Why is this being discussed? Why isn't "Hell No", and "have a nice day"?

Let me put it this way....this week, the show comes back and its all Ollieville, with the Dark Archer from Oliver's past. Is anyone talking about when Clark goes up against the Dark Archer? Is anyone talking about how Clark will deal with this enemy of Oliver's? Oh course not! ARGH *ragey thoughts*

I like Justin Hartley. I really do. Oliver? I just can't say I like how they use him on this show in relation to Clark. I think they think of it as them telling 2 different hero stories, as opposed to them thinking of how using Oliver can enhance Clark's story.

starry_dawn From: starry_dawn Date: January 29th, 2010 04:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree with what you're saying in that it does seem very Ollie-centric, but I do get the feeling that if this interview had been with Tom, we'd be getting a lot more Clark-centric stuff talked about. But our guy remains elusive as ever ...
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 10:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree that the fact that it's Justin being interviewed makes a difference. It's hard to tell how much of the Oliver emphasis in the spoilers that Justin shares is because of his obviously Ollie-centric perspective, and how much is simply reflective of the writing. I wish we could hear Tom's perspective as well.
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jeannev From: jeannev Date: January 29th, 2010 06:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
Cynical!LaT thinks it's a bone thrown to Chloe fans

Cynical!Me agrees 100%. There's nothing organic about this at all.

I would expect Oliver and Chloe to be involved with Clark's plan to deal with Zod and it does make a certain sense. Clark shouldn't have to go it alone if he's got people capable of backing his play. But that's the problem I see -- Oliver and Chloe aren't capable of backing Clark's play, at least not since the events of Doomsday. And it does sound like they're going to be second-guessing him yet again, nevermind that of the three of them, he's literally the only one best equipped to neutralize Zod.


Well, thats it, exactly. JH isn't talking about how Oliver is going to back up Clark in his battle with Zod. He's talking about how Green Arrow is going to battle Zod, and how he has his own ideas, and thinks he's the person for the job. I don't object to Clark having back-up. But it reminds me of what they did with Oliver and Lex. Suddenly, those 2 were the big rivals, and Oliver was all about taking Lex down. But wasn't the show supposed to be about Clark and/vs Lex? And then Toyman comes on, and guess what? He's all about Oliver. I still don't think he even knows who Clark is, and he has no interest in The Blur.

Frankly, with the shows track record, I need Oliver to be way in the back of the mini-van when it comes to battling Zod. I don't need one, single GA/Oliver vs Zod scene. At all.

tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 10:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
First of all, thank you so much for this comment! It's that perfect combination of logical, thoughtful analysis and ruthless snark that I love, and that only you can give us. :)

I think anyway you squint and look at this one, it sounds like Oliver is settling for Chloe because he can't have Lois, and apparently Chloe won't ask much from him. Pardon me while I swoon over how romantic that is *rolls eyes* Why are they bothering with this?

It makes no sense to me either, and I think most of Justin's answer there is him thinking out loud, trying to figure it out for himself. Chloe doesn't want much, which is good, because Oliver doesn't have much to offer? As I said upthread, he makes it sound like they're friends with benefits. And I don't think Justin is necessarily sold on the idea just yet.

So, Oliver thinks Lois is the love of his life, he's going to be having a fling with Chloe, but who knows, he might still have something brewing with Tess?

Honestly, I think this is Justin's way of saying, "How the hell should I know? I only work here." A lot of what Justin said in all of these interviews makes me think he's feeling a bit powerless at the moment.

OK, All sorts of ragey thoughts going on in my head now.

Oh, this answer totally set me off! You'll notice there was no favorite quote at the top of this interview, but I almost posted this one as my least favorite. Why does something have to be wrong with Clark's plan?! Why does the fight against Zod have to be a collaboration? I would say it should be Clark's plan, with him telling Oliver and Chloe what to do, except after Doomsday we know they can't be trusted! Is Zod going to be Doomsday redux?

And why can't Oliver start to understand Clark's way a bit more because he's spending time with Clark. Why does that need to involve Chloe?

I don't even get how this is supposed to work. Chloe clearly doesn't understand Clark anymore, how is spending time with her going to help?

And really, Oliver and Chloe think they are the right people for the job? Over Clark? Jesus-fucking-Christ!

I know! I get it, show, Clark isn't Superman yet. That doesn't mean he has to be wrong all the time! He is the hero of the story, and we should be allowed to see him shine!

WHY?? Why is it necessary for Oliver to have any meaningful direct interaction with Zod?

I agree! This is Clark's fight.

I think they think of it as them telling 2 different hero stories, as opposed to them thinking of how using Oliver can enhance Clark's story.

I think you're right. I just don't know WHY.
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tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 10:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I just don't see the point of an Oliver/Chloe romance. I like it when they work together as colleagues, as they did in Siren, but not when they're dissing Clark behind his back, as they did at the end of Roulette. I have to see how it actually plays out.

Justin's interviews are definitely all about Oliver, but of course that's natural. It's hard to say how reflective of the show his viewpoint is. That's one of the main reasons I wish Tom would help to promote the show, too. Lately it seems like we never get Clark's POV, onscreen or off. :/
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 29th, 2010 03:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm a Chloe fan who is against Chloe/Oliver because he slept with Lois. I think that's both gross and wrong. I also hate that it's going to be implied that Chloe is nothing more that Oliver's second choice, and I think that's very disrespectful of Chloe. I don't know why Chlollie fans are so happy, because this relationship/fling makes Chloe look like she's not worthy of being someone's first choice. I know that the Chloe fans I talk with aren't happy but they rarely post about the show anymore because they are so upset. We tend to focus on how hot Tom looked, or how pretty Allison looked.

As a Chloe fan I've hated what they've done to Chloe, her and Clark's friendship, and now making her Oliver's second best. I think that she deserves better than being second best, being dragged through the mud, and having her friendship with Clark destroyed. I guess I thought, with this possibly being Allison's last year, that they would repair the friendship and have Chloe leave with a smile on her face. I don't understand why TPTB are going in the direction that they are. Why they feel the need to ruin Chloe as a character and make her someone's second choice. It's been one crappy year if you're a Chloe fan. Sorry for the rant. I found your journal via a link. ~Donna
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 29th, 2010 11:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Don't apologize, you're welcome to rant here. :)

I'm not happy with what they've done with Chloe either. I don't see why she has to be at odds with Clark. Their friendship has always been one of the best things about this show, and I miss it terribly. And having that relationship deteriorate at the same time that the Clois romance heats up only fans the flames of the shipper wars.

I also think that by giving Allison so little to do, they're foolishly squandering her amazing acting talent, but I shouldn't be surprised. They did the same thing with Michael Rosenbaum.

Actually, I think that the way Justin describes it (especially after reading his new interview with Zap2it, HERE), it sounds like Chloe and Oliver are going to share some kind of casual hookup, with no commitment or expectations, as if they're two broken souls who are incapable of loving anyone right now, so they cling to one another in a relationship that is as damaged as they are. I hope I'm wrong, because I think that would be awful.

If it is indeed a romance, I agree that Chloe would look like Oliver's second choice. Just like the end of Requiem made Lois look like Clark's second choice. And that would suck. Oliver's past with Lois wouldn't be an issue for me if it were truly in the past, but he was declaring his undying love to her just a few weeks ago on the show's time line. And I imagine Chloe is still very much traumatized by watching her husband be brutally murdered right before her eyes. I just don't think either one of them should be contemplating a new romantic relationship right now.

I keep hoping that Clark and Chloe will find their way back to one another and repair their friendship, but with each new spoiler it seems less likely. I do worry about what they have planned for Allison's exit from the show.
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tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 30th, 2010 12:00 am (UTC) (Link)
To me, the Chlollie relationship has two strikes against it. First, Oliver has very recently said he's still in love with Lois, and second, Green Arrow is fated to be with Black Canary. I think if Chloe is going to have a love interest, he needs to be an original character like she is, without any possibility of an iconic destiny that will doom their relationship.

I loved her AU boyfriend in Apocalypse. As a cop he was a real-life hero, and they were adorable together. I wish he were coming back in Warrior, instead of just the actor who portrayed him.
whimsywinx From: whimsywinx Date: January 30th, 2010 01:34 am (UTC) (Link)
Your birthday, Christmas and Easter all rolled into ONE!!!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 30th, 2010 01:54 am (UTC) (Link)
I know!! It's been a wonderful week, and tonight my show returns! \o/
whimsywinx From: whimsywinx Date: January 30th, 2010 02:09 am (UTC) (Link)
I KNOW!!! (I've seen it.) *shifty eyes*
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 30th, 2010 02:49 am (UTC) (Link)
*is jealous*
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