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Smallville: Justin Hartley talks to Jenna Busch for Newsarama
Justin Hartley is doing a whole bunch of interviews to promote the return of Smallville this Friday. This one is with Jenna Busch for Newsarama. He has some really interesting things to say about Oliver and the path he has been on this season, and he shares at least one spoiler that should cause quite a stir.

For the Tom Welling fans on my flist, I want to highlight Justin's wonderful quote about him:

"Tom turned out to be...what I think his talent is, is directing. I think he's one of the best directors I've ever worked under, to be totally honest with you. The guy is wonderful to work with."

The entire interview follows:

Smallville's GREEN ARROW Takes Aim at Dark Archer, JSA.
By Jenna Busch
posted: 25 January 2010 05:46 pm ET

The two-hour “Smallville” movie “Absolute Justice” is set to air on Feb 5, 2010. Written by Newsarama’s Reader Favorite writer Geoff Johns, the movie will see Clark and Oliver meeting with the heroes of old, the Justice Society of America.

But before the JSA goodness, we have “Disciple” on January 29th. In this episode, Ollie has a run in with his former teacher, Dark Archer (Steve Bacic), who's kidnapped all his lady friends. Let's just say, they don't get along. We spoke with Justin Hartley, who plays Oliver Queen, the Green Arrow, about the second half of the season. Hartley spills some juicy info on the episode, Ollie's upcoming clash with Hawkman (Michael Shanks), why he really doesn't want anyone else from the universe to show up and the return of Speedy (Elise Gatien). He also drops a major hint about an upcoming love affair.

Newsarama: I know you have a run in with Dark Archer in the upcoming episode. So can you give us some info on the relationship you guys have? Sort of set it up for us?

Justin Hartley: Sure. So basically we've all seen Oliver take this turn for the worse this year and then kind of recover from it. And right now he's on the brink of recovering from this whole downward spiral thing and trying to figure out who he is and making sure...he's teetering back and forth, and I don't think he really trusts himself that much. But he's on this good path right now. So what happens is, because timing is everything on 'Smallville', right? This Dark Archer, this guy from Oliver's past comes back to kind of claim what's rightfully his. They were both members of this underground society and one of the deals of this society is, when you get older, your apprentice is supposed to take your life so that you don't watch yourself decay and all that stuff. So he comes back to claim that, and people around Oliver are kind of mistaking him for Oliver. They're not quite sure if it's Oliver. Maybe he's lost his mind, maybe he really is a bad guy. So they start second guessing him, which is kind of depressing in a little way. But they square off at the end, and...I'm not sure if I should tell you what exactly happens, but I am in the next episode, so I don't die. I can tell you that. [laughs] They square off, and Oliver is trying to claim what is his, saying, 'Look. I've changed. I'm a different person. That's not me anymore.' So there is a big face off there.

Nrama: We know that Speedy is back.

Hartley: Yes. She's one of the victims of the Dark Archer. What he's doing is, when Oliver denies him, when he says, 'Look, I'm not part of that anymore,' he stars going after people that Oliver cares about, so he goes after Speedy and Lois (Erica Durance) and Chloe (Allison Mack), and it's only a matter of time before things get really bad. So he's got to figure out a way to stop this guy from doing what he's doing, without giving this guy what he wants. So it's kind of an interesting little situation he's got himself into.

Nrama: Everyone is really freaking out about the two hour “Absolute Justice”. If Twitter is to be believed, it's going to be the highest rated show in television history.

Hartley: [laughs] Good!

Nrama: So how does “Disciple” set up “Absolute Justice”? Or does it?

Hartley: No...you know...it does in a way. I think it sets up Oliver for what he does in “Absolute Justice” more than the series. Those two shows are basically...I don't want to say they're stand alone shows, because they're not. They do tie into the main theme of the year. But those two episodes, they were so well done that they stand on their own. They don't contradict anything that we've done all year, but at the same time, they don't necessarily need any of that to stand on their own. They're individuals. It's basically a movie...and then afterwards we still talk about it a bit. In the subsequent episodes, we still talk about what's happened in those two. It doesn't set up the story line for any other character, but...for all the other heroic things that Oliver's doing, or that Green Arrow's doing in “Absolute Justice” and the things he does and the decisions he makes in “Disciple” kind of makes it more believable that this guy just came back from this downward, hurried momentum, is now kind of back and ready to do the hero thing.

Nrama: I read the official description of “Absolute Justice”, but they don't really talk much about what's going on with Oliver. Michael Shanks (Hawkman) has talked about you guys butting heads. Geoff Johns has spoken about a 'shared behavior'. So can you talk a bit about your role in that?

Hartley: First of all, huge mistake not mentioning my name. [laughs] Just kidding. Green Arrow is all through the thing and Oliver is all through the thing. It's mostly about the Justice Society, and Clark kind of finding out...there is this interesting thing where you find out who was after them is now after us. So we have to work together. And you're right. Hawkman and Green Arrow do not get along. They do not see eye to eye politically. [laughs] They don't see eye to eye on any kind of social issue. But yet they're stuck together because they work well together. So here you have two guys that are basically forced to work together to find out who the 'bad guy' is, and put a stop to all this bleeding, and in the process, they kind of, towards the end, grow to...I don't want to say like each other, because I don't think that really ever happens, but a mutual respect is kind of formed throughout the course of the show. I would say about half way through the second one, when you start to see that, although I don't agree with everything he's doing and he doesn't agree with everything I'm doing, the two characters kind of help each other out. It's interesting that Green Arrow is the one telling Hawkman things that basically he should have told himself three months ago. But since he's been able to figure all of that out, now he can help Hawkman get over what was lost to him. They definitely have common ground at the end.

Nrama: You've got some amazing characters from the DC Universe coming up in the rest of the season. Silver Banshee (Odessa Rae) was just announced. Is there someone from the universe you'd like to see that you haven't yet?

Hartley: You know, every time someone comes in from the universe, they usually end up beating the hell out of Oliver, so I don't want to see anybody. [laughs] Every time they bring in a new character, I get my ass kicked on that show. So I guess the question is, who would I like to get my ass kicked by? You know, man, I think that every time someone comes on the show...and to be quite honest with you, Silver Banshee came on the show, and I'm reading this script and I see Silver Banshee...I don't know Silver Banshee. I'd never heard of that, but just from the description, I thought I should look that up, because it probably has something to do with the comics and the DC Universe, and sure enough it did. I don't know. I like to see the people return a little bit. I'd like to see Cyborg (Lee Thompson Young) back for an episode. I think his story needs to be told a little bit more. But then, you know, I appreciate it when no one is there and they can dive in to the Clark (Tom Welling) story a little bit more. The Superman story. I have a lot of faith in them and what they're doing. They tend to know exactly...they have their finger on the pulse, you know what I mean? They have their story, their year, and they do a really good job of keeping everybody tuned in throughout the course of the year. So however many new characters they need or to maybe keep them away for a while and focus on Clark, they really do a good job. I was always an Incredible Hulk kid, but I don't think we can bring him on, because it's Marvel. [laughs] Let's see what happens there.

Nrama: Everyone wants to know what's up with Ollie's love life. Who are we going to see him end up with?

Hartley: We will see him with, let's see. In “Disciple”...you can assume that he's with a lot of women. I will say this. One of them is...I can't tell you who it is, but I can tell you that it's a series regular, and it's not someone that I've been with before. So we'll see how that goes.

Nrama: The message boards are going to go crazy with that little hint! We wanted to ask you about another upcoming episode, “Warrior” that Allison Mack is directing. What was that experience like?

Hartley: That was really great. I learned a long time ago...I think it was two years ago, maybe three years ago, when Tom (Welling) directed an episode. My first instinct was, 'Oh crap.' Basically I don't know how I'm going to handle that. But it was such a great experience. What I learned from that was, though it's hard to do sometimes, is not to have any preconceived notions that are so easy to have. Tom turned out to be...what I think his talent is, is directing. I think he's one of the best directors I've ever worked under, to be totally honest with you. The guy is wonderful to work with. So then Allison comes in and directs this episode and she's so smart, but yet she understands what her grasp of directing is now. OK? So she's not afraid to ask for help or listen to other people or any of that stuff. Which makes her even smarter. Working under her is great also...unfortunately I only get to do two quick little scenes, but one of them is with her. And she's got this way about her. She's really fun to be around and work for. It was really, really great. We're lucky. We have a great cast. Everybody likes each other and there's never a big ego thing going on, you know what I mean? Everyone's there for the baby.

Nrama: Another thing I happened to see online was something about you and Stargirl (Britt Irvin) clashing.

Hartley: Yeah. I guess a little bit, although I just kind of flick her off to the side a little bit. She's really small. I mean, I don't know about us clashing, but she just kind of annoys me. [laughs] But yeah, we do clash a little bit. I think it's funny, actually. Oliver is funny with women, you know what I mean? [laughs] You never know what you're going to get with him. But she's bound and determined and she's this little firecracker and so we have a little bit of a thing going on there I guess.

Nrama: The way it's been sounding, it's looking like there may be a Season 10. Are you signed on for that?

Hartley: Yeah, but I'm looking for a lot more money. I'm going to renegotiate for a sh*t load more money. [laughs] No, I'm kidding. But yeah. That's something I am signed on for. So the way it works is that, to be quite honest with you, if they want me on the show next year, if there is a Season 10...then they have me contracted. And if they don't want me on the show, then they can let me go. That's kind of the way it works. It works in their favor. So I have to mind my p's and q's. I have to be nice. Know what I mean? I can't just be a jerk. [laughs]

”Smallville” airs Friday night at 8/7c on the CW.


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eeyore1017 From: eeyore1017 Date: January 26th, 2010 01:23 am (UTC) (Link)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Oliver is getting romantic with a series regular he's never been with before, that only leaves Chloe, right? Unless he and Martha Kent are going to be heating it up! :-) I'm not sure how I feel about that...

I love all of Justin's Tom directing quotes though! And I love his usual self-deprecating humor. :-) And he reminds everyone about how this is a SUPERMAN story...:-)
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 01:42 am (UTC) (Link)
It can only be Chloe. I don't care much one way or the other, but I wonder if it's a fleeting thing, or if it will stick. Green Arrow is destined to be with Black Canary, so why put him with Chloe? Just to make the Chlollie shippers happy?

I love that Justin paid Tom that compliment, especially when the question was about Allison. And he addressed a number of issues I've had with the show this season. At least the actors are aware of them, too!
eeyore1017 From: eeyore1017 Date: January 26th, 2010 01:51 am (UTC) (Link)
I just had a thought, but it might be wishful thinking- What if Chloe and Oliver go undercover at the bed and breakfast as a couple to solve a crime or whatever and that's the only "romantic" stuff that happens with them?

Like I said, it's probably just wishful thinking...

And I agree, I think Justin (and probably the other actors) totally "get it." :-)
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 02:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh, I think that's totally possible! It allows Justin to generate some buzz for the show by hinting around that they'll be "together," and it would give the shippers some great promo pics and screen caps to play around with. :)

Whatever it turns out to be, I just can't believe that we're going to see Oliver and Chloe as a couple for any length of time.
eeyore1017 From: eeyore1017 Date: January 26th, 2010 02:21 am (UTC) (Link)
Whatever it turns out to be, I just can't believe that we're going to see Oliver and Chloe as a couple for any length of time.
I know!

*fingers crossed* that our "theory" is what happens.

I love all your Justin icons, by the way! :-)
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 02:40 am (UTC) (Link)
I need more Justin/Green Arrow icons! I think this one is my favorite. ;)
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tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 01:57 am (UTC) (Link)
I can't say I appreciate how Chloe has been acting this season, but I used to adore her, and I think Allison is an amazing actress. But I can't see why they would put Oliver and Chloe together romantically. Neither one of them seems to be in a place where they would be ready for a new relationship, and we know it can't last. Like Clark, Oliver has an iconic love interest.

Reading between the lines, it sounds to me like TPTB have let the actors know that they believe the DC characters bring higher ratings, and are therefore the key to the survival of the show. And Justin, being a team player, is trying to trust that they know what they're doing. Personally, I would rather see compelling stories that are all about Clark.
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tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 03:49 am (UTC) (Link)
I liked their chemistry in Siren, but more as colleagues than as potential romantic partners. I really think we have all the romance we need with Clark and Lois anyway.

I'm guessing that Steven's story begins and ends in Warrior, and that whatever happens between Oliver and Chloe is after that.

Yes, I'd love to hear more about the Red!K episode, and anything about Clark! At least we'll have new episodes to watch soon.
whimsywinx From: whimsywinx Date: January 26th, 2010 01:46 am (UTC) (Link)
That little tease!! I want to know who's he's going to go for!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 02:04 am (UTC) (Link)
It has to be Chloe! He says it's a series regular he hasn't been with before, and she's the only one. I did think they had great chemistry in Siren, back in S7, but I'm still surprised they would go there.
whimsywinx From: whimsywinx Date: January 26th, 2010 02:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Being an ignorant Smallville type, I'm all for it. And not just because Ollie will have his shirt off if he's having sex.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 02:13 am (UTC) (Link)
Good point! I'm all for that! :D I'd apologize for objectifying Justin, but he doesn't seem to mind all that much.
tasabian From: tasabian Date: January 26th, 2010 02:23 am (UTC) (Link)
I wonder if Justin checks fan boards? His remarks about the need for Clark-focus seemed aimed at reassuring fans.

As always, he says such nice things about Tom & the cast!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 02:35 am (UTC) (Link)
I wonder if Justin checks fan boards? His remarks about the need for Clark-focus seemed aimed at reassuring fans.

Justin has always been very savvy when it comes to promotion. I do think he's aware, and he's no dummy.

As always, he says such nice things about Tom & the cast!

I enjoy his interviews. He's unfailingly positive, sincerely nice, and funny to boot!
jlvsclrk From: jlvsclrk Date: January 26th, 2010 03:56 am (UTC) (Link)
I wish I could be more enthusiastic, but I'm not an Ollie fan so he's made me positively fear the thought of Disciple, and I will begrudge every second wasted on him in AJ. And Chloe/Oliver at this stage kind of makes me want to vomit. Ah well, Justin is scarcely to be blamed for all that. I love his comments about Clark and Tom. He's definitely a team player.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 04:10 am (UTC) (Link)
I know you're not the only one on my flist who feels that way. I'm just glad that Justin is willing to get out there and promote the show, especially if he talks about Tom.
anakaliaandrea From: anakaliaandrea Date: January 26th, 2010 04:12 am (UTC) (Link)
haha justin is hilarious! :)

and we already know its chloe. and I think I've finally decided I don't want them together. I'm kind of tired of the writer throwing everyone with someone all the time. whats wrong with being single? besides I am more interested in his relationship with Black Canary if anything else. They don't know what to do with chloe anymore. I don't think she deserves anyone else with what she did to Jimmy as far as I'm concerned.

I am looking forward to more clois! <3
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 07:56 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm kind of tired of the writer throwing everyone with someone all the time. whats wrong with being single?

I agree. We've had a lot of focus on romance with Clark and Lois in the first half of the season, which I've thoroughly enjoyed, but I don't think we need any additional romantic entanglements on the show. And I can't see how putting Oliver and Chloe together will serve Clark's story. But the more I think about it, the more I suspect that spoiler isn't exactly what it seems anyway.

I'm glad that it seems that Clark and Lois will stay together, at least for the foreseeable future. I don't want to see a replay of what Clark and Lana went through.
starry_dawn From: starry_dawn Date: January 26th, 2010 04:23 am (UTC) (Link)
Justin is a sweetie. I love that he pays the cast so many compliments.

And I may be seeing this purely from a shipper's point of view, but Oliver and Chloe! I know they can't last and all, but my fangirly self is jumping up and down in joy. I've been waiting for this since S6, when they first met!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: January 26th, 2010 08:10 am (UTC) (Link)
You KNOW I thought of you first when I read that spoiler! I don't care all that much one way or the other, but I'm thrilled for your sake that you'll finally get your Chlollie! And I won't rain on your parade by speculating about if it will be real, or how long it will or won't last, okay? :)

I will say, though, that if they're anything like they were together in Siren, I'll probably love it. I can see Oliver being that playful again, he was halfway there already in Kandor, but Chloe's very different now. If Oliver can somehow reawaken her joyful spirit, and bring back the Chloe I love, that would be awesome.
starry_dawn From: starry_dawn Date: January 26th, 2010 03:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
Aw, you're sweet! <3 I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic because I know Ollie will eventually end up with Dinah, but it's hard when you've wanted to see something for so long. ;)

I'm hoping for a happy hook-up as well. Ollie seems to finally be out of Angstville, so if he can lighten Chloe up too, that would just be perfect. I'd like to see them have something similar to Clark and Lois, and for them to at least gain some happiness from each other's company. I guess we'll see. :)

Edited at 2010-01-26 03:56 pm (UTC)
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