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Where I stand on all things Smallville. - I worship at the television altar
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Where I stand on all things Smallville.
Yesterday I posted a picspam in celebration of the awesome Chloe Sullivan. It felt wonderful to revisit some of her finest moments, to remind myself why I love her so much, and just to branch out and post about someone besides Tom or Clark. :) The response was overwhelming, and amazing, and it touched my heart. It was a glorious day for me, truly.

Yesterday I was also friended by eight new people, which is some kind of record for me. As of about 30 minutes ago, four of them had defriended me, and more may follow. The record time between friending and defriending was 16 minutes. I understand why, they evidently assumed I was a Chlark shipper, and after reading a bit more of my journal, found out I wasn't and bailed. Or maybe it was because I don't hate Lois. IDK. I don't make and break friendships based on Smallville ships (bros before shows!), but I guess I'm the exception to the rule. *rolls eyes* Is it too much to ask, if you're so sensitive, that you actually spend a few minutes reading a person's journal before jumping into a friending you're likely to retract? Because while I'm hardly heartbroken at losing these newfound "friends," it's no fun to receive the message of, "Yay! You're cool! Let's be friends! No, wait. Never mind. You suck!"

So in the interest of heading off any more ill advised friendings, I think it's time to revisit where I stand on all things Smallville. Just so you know.

1) First and foremost, I'm a Tom fan. I love the guy beyond all reason. Duh.

2) I like Clark best. He's my boy.

3) I'll never give up on Lex.

4) I pretty much worship Michael, and I miss him terribly.

5) I love Chloe. I love the Chlark friendship. I don't ship it.

6) I don't ship anyone with Clark. Meaning, my enjoyment of the show doesn't hinge on seeing Clark in a romantic relationship. I'm much more interested in seeing his journey to become Supes, and him discovering the hero within himself.

7) I like Lois. More and more with each episode.

8) There is not a single actor on this show that I don't like, appreciate, and respect.

9) I love the Clois humor: the banter, the flirting, the snark.

10) I adore Oliver, Jimmy, and Tess. Davis/Doomsday? Not so much.

11) I hate the Chimmy, but not with the burning intensity I used to. I guess they're wearing me down.

12) Phil Morris is the bomb, as is Martian Manhunter/J'onn J'onzz/John Jones.

13) I don't hate Lana, but I'm glad she's gone.

14) I still say Lionel was bad to the end, magnificently so.

15) I miss Martha and Jonathan.

So there you have it. I don't claim that it's riveting information, but obviously it matters to some people. If, after reading my list, you can't remember why we ever became friends, or you find you've lost respect for me, or you're making fun of me in your head right now, please do us both a favor and defriend me now. We'll both be better off. And to anyone who got this far, thanks for listening. I love you guys.

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simplytoopretty From: simplytoopretty Date: February 19th, 2009 08:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love you! *grins*

I'm sorry that happened, because it's very lame to friend someone and then defriend them after you read through their journal and realize the views aren't the same as yours. You know where I stand on the show, but we're still good and we get along anyways. People don't have to have the same view as you for people to get along well. I've got others on my flist and we get along just fine even though our opinions aren't the same.

Bottom line: some people suck. Those people suck. And really you're better off not having them on your flist. (Although now I'm wondering if some of them are on my flist, which is possible given all the Chlakers on my flist).

Now, I have lots of respect for you, even if we don't always agree. I'm not leaving. Nope, you can't make me ;) *clings to Tariel*
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 10:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love you, too! :)

I know we don't agree on the show, obviously, but I respect your opinion, and understand why you feel the way you do. I always appreciate your viewpoint, and it means the world to me that you comment on my reviews. And just because I don't ship Chlark on the show, that doesn't mean I don't love it in your fic. Besides, I like to think our friendship has grown beyond the boundaries of one TV show, you know?

A couple of them are on your flist, but I don't hold anything against them, truly. It's better that they bailed than hang around and like me less every day.

I'm afraid you're stuck with me, too. *glomps you*
dm_wyatt From: dm_wyatt Date: February 19th, 2009 08:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
I would agree with almost everything you say, although I don't miss Jonathan at all... he was a bit of a drag, I thought.

And I don't think I miss Michael as much as you do...
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 10:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Jonathan could be an ass, but I miss the Kent family unit sometimes. I wish Clark didn't have to be so alone.

I miss Michael more than I do Lex. Meaning, I'm okay with him not being on the show, I just want to see him in something. :)

And I appreciate that it's okay that we don't necessarily agree!
huzzlewhat From: huzzlewhat Date: February 19th, 2009 08:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
Speaking as one of the people who friended you yesterday, I'm glad I found you and am going to stick to you like glue. :-)


tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 10:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank you! *hugs* I'm very happy to have found you, too!
christina_kat From: christina_kat Date: February 19th, 2009 08:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Agree with Everything!
Although about Chlark...I'm a little confused!
I want them to keep their friendship as things goes on the show..but I really wanted them to hook up...at least one time!LOL

I LOVE HERO CLARK...but I would be also happy for him to have someone in his life...and I NEED more sexy TW scenes!yeah I know...I can't think of anything else!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 10:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's all good, we don't have to agree! :D

I think you know I would never have a problem with more sexy scenes with Tom! And I'm open to Clark having love in his life, that would be wonderful, as long as it works with the story they're telling. It's just not what I care about the most.

And we'll always share our love of the pretty! :)
netlynn From: netlynn Date: February 19th, 2009 08:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't make and break friendships based on Smallville ships (bros before shows!), but I guess I'm the exception to the rule.

Awww! *hugs you* I'm sorry people are so insensitive and I'm sorry it hurt your feelings. The way you look at things should be the way more people act. I know we don't always agree on the Clana but that doesn't mean I'm not glad to have you on my flist. And I certainly wouldn't ever think of defriending you because of it. :)

And? I like everything you said above with the exception of Lana being gone, of course. I'll miss her. ;)

*hugs*
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 10:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I'm just a big baby sometimes. :D

What I enjoy about being friends with you goes so far beyond this show! I love your sense of humor, your spirit, your creativity, and your unique way of looking at the world. Besides, we'll always have Tom. ;)

*hugs back*

Icon LOVE! ♥ God, he's pretty in that promo!
jaimsie From: jaimsie Date: February 19th, 2009 09:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't even watch Smallville any more but lets face it friend you are pretty much stuck with me - so deal with it.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 11:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
hee! I love you, you know.

OMG, did you love NCIS? Because I did. Tony and Gibbs! *is incoherent*
bananabehr From: bananabehr Date: February 19th, 2009 10:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love you, T. Just wanted to make sure you know. You can watch anything you want, decide you hate Supernatural and I would still love you to the max. Just so we're on the same page...

*tacklesmushes*
~A

*points to icon* Anyone who does what T has just described has earned themselves the Fabulous Drunk!Sam Seal of Disapproval... IJS.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 11:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
Anna! \o/ *hugs*

The Fabulous Drunk!Sam Seal of Disapproval, huh? :D Does that mean they're bossy? And short?

Hate Supernatural?! Bite your tongue! LOL! I'll always love my boys. But yeah, what you said. To the max. ♥
jeannev From: jeannev Date: February 19th, 2009 10:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
WHAT??!! You "miss Martha and Jonathan"? Thats it, I'm defriending you. I can only be friends with people who fall in lockstep with my every opinion. ;);)

Oh, OK, I'm lying. I miss them too.

I guess in the end, consider yourself lucky that you didn't end up with people on your flist that couldn't allow themselves to be exposed to ideas and opinions outside of their own.

And you're never shaking me off, you know that, right? :D

tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 11:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for making me laugh, Val. *hugs you tight*

The whole thing just wears me out, you know? I just wanted to have a little fun with Chloe, and I feel like I got all this drama with it. And I'm a baby; any kind of rejection stings a little.

You're never getting rid of me either. After all, I fangirl you almost as much as I do Tom! ♥
h2osprincess From: h2osprincess Date: February 19th, 2009 10:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
What do you call that? Instant friend retraction? Premature friendation? Speed friending? Either way, it's a little silly.

I like having your opinions on my f-list, even if we disagree on lots of stuff. How boring would the world be if we only got to hear the opinions of people who agree with us?

:)
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 11:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
HAHA!! I like premature friendation. You're too funny. I think it's silly, too. As much as I love Smallville, even I know it's just a TV show, and just one facet of what makes up a potential new friendship.

Thanks for your kind words, truly. I enjoy having all diffrent viewpoints on my flist. The best part is when they open my mind up to something new, or a whole new way of looking at the same old thing. That has even happened a couple of times in relation to Smallville, and it's a wonderful thing.
jude_judith82 From: jude_judith82 Date: February 19th, 2009 11:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
You're wonderful anyone who defriends you just doesn't know the magnificence that is you.
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 19th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
Okay, you can stay. LOL! Hey, didn't we majorly disagree about the Lana arc? I can't even remember now. All I know is I love having you on my flist. *hugs*
drusplace From: drusplace Date: February 19th, 2009 11:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree with everything you said! Except Davis, I like the Davis character. Course that isn't enough to make me go running away screaming. You can't get rid of me that easy!
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 20th, 2009 12:14 am (UTC) (Link)
Hey, I have to keep you happy, you make the pretties for me! ;)

Seriously, though, what's wrong with seeing things a little differently from one another? I think we've disagreed on plenty of stuff in the episodes (not that I can remember anything specific), and we've never had even a hint of a problem. I just think it's always better to open yourself up, rather than to close yourself down.
fotw_sv From: fotw_sv Date: February 19th, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
*Hugs*

I miss Jonathan, Martha, MB and Lex too! Tess is growing on me but she will NEVER replace Lex or Lionel and MB should have stayed the way he was. I loved the love/hate Father/Son dynamics. Davis?...Ick! That's all I can say. I don't like looking at him.

The rest I covered in my PM earlier. *smishes* I appreciate you so much! Your comments on my work always give me a warm feeling and I always cherish every word. Especially when you look past the "ship". &hearts &hearts
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 20th, 2009 02:08 am (UTC) (Link)
I loved the dynamics between Lex and Lionel, too. What a blow to lose them both in the same season! I know you don't watch Heroes, but I'm looking forward to seeing John Glover play Sylar's dad next month.

It's funny, I can look at Davis and recognize that Sam has a good body, but he does nothing for me. Just not my type, I guess. But I also think it has something to do with Davis being the creature who is destined to kill my Clark, and I'm not looking forward to that. It's boring because we already know what the endgame is, and I never enjoy fights where Clark loses anyway. Tess, OTOH, fascinates me.

Your PM was much appreciated, truly. *smishes you back* And my little comments on your art are the least I can do to thank you for all the joy your beautiful work brings to me!
frelling_tralk From: frelling_tralk Date: February 19th, 2009 11:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wow that's bizarre that four people all friended and then defriended! This fandoms intolerance for other viewpoints is very strange indeed. I had the same from the opposite angle where a couple of people I had known for years defriended me, and I found out they defriended all of the Chlois fans on their flist at the same time :/ I was a little frustrated at that as I'm never rude stating my opinions I don't think, but with SV people seem to group fans together in very hostile ways. It comes across that, even if you debate your opinions respectfully, that isn't even the issue, it's all about the group that you're part of
frelling_tralk From: frelling_tralk Date: February 19th, 2009 11:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh and try not to let it get to you, it really is their loss *hugs*
laurelnola From: laurelnola Date: February 19th, 2009 11:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
Okay, I only got as far as the 16 minute friend-defriend operation and I had to laugh. Some folks really butter my corn with their craziness.

So you might as well know that it will never matter to me what you like about Smallville, or don't like, or ship, or don't ship, or whatever. You could proclaim yourself to ship a three-way between Lionel/Jonathan/Zod (what would that be? Jo-Li-Zod? Zo-Li-Jo?), and I would still think, "Whatever makes you happy, hon." I like YOU. You're kind and funny and generous and that's all I need to know. Anyone who puts fandom before friendship will always have my deepest sympathies, because when SV ends, it's going to be a lonely playground for them.

*smishes*
tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 20th, 2009 03:29 am (UTC) (Link)
A Lionel/Jonathan/Zod three-way? *giggles* You always make me laugh.

Dawn, you put this show, and fandom in general, into perspective for me a long time ago, and your sanity and wisdom have been an inspiration to me ever since. Thank you for your kind words, truly. I know this is less than nothing, really, but I've never taken any kind of rejection well. As my brother likes to say, I was always the baby of the family, even though I was born in the middle. :)

Anyone who puts fandom before friendship will always have my deepest sympathies, because when SV ends, it's going to be a lonely playground for them.

See? That's what I'm talking about. Thanks for once again unerringly getting to the heart of the matter. Too true.
whimsywinx From: whimsywinx Date: February 19th, 2009 11:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm sorry you had to deal with some seriously WTF-types, but I'm glad they didn't stick around to make your life miserable. And just so you know, there may be a Tariel appreciation package in the works. Cuz I appreciate the life out of you and miss you when work eats you alive. *hugs*

Aww, you don't like Davis/Doomsday? I kinda do, or, maybe given the small amount of Smallville I actually watch, I just like looking at him. The man does have some nice abs.


tariel22 From: tariel22 Date: February 20th, 2009 09:40 am (UTC) (Link)
A Tariel appreciation package? That sounds awfully exciting! *forgets what she was upset about*

I think Sam Witwer is a fabulous actor, but the whole Davis/Doomsday storyline makes me nervous. I don't want him messing with Chloe, and I don't want him to kill Clark, but I think that's where they're headed on both counts. It seems predictable, which makes it boring to me, with a guaranteed bad ending, which stresses me out. But maybe the show will surprise me; it certainly has before.

I can look at SW and intellectually say he has a perfect body, but for some reason, unlike Tom, Michael, and Justin, he does nothing for me. it's weird. I really think it's because he's destined to kill my boy Clark. It's like he's MY enemy or something. *is crazy*
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